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What is the difference between a scene girl and a goth girl?

What is the difference between a scene girl and a goth girl?

What is the difference between a scene girl and a goth girl?

“Scene” and “goth” are terms used to describe different subcultures with distinct styles, attitudes, and aesthetics. While both subcultures share a penchant for alternative fashion, music, and individual expression, there are notable differences between a scene girl and a goth girl. What is the difference between a scene girl and a goth girl?

Scene Girl:

  1. Fashion: Scene fashion tends to be colorful eclectic, and often involves a mix of styles. It can include bright and neon colors, graphic tees, skinny jeans, tutu skirts, and playful accessories.
  2. Hair and Makeup: Scene girls often have brightly colored or highlighted hair and may incorporate bold hairstyles, such as asymmetrical cuts or teased hair. Makeup can be fierce, with vibrant eyeshadows and eyeliner.
  3. Music: Scene subculture is associated with various music genres, including electronic, pop-punk, and post-hardcore. Scene girls may have diverse musical tastes within these genres.

Goth Girl:

  1. Fashion: Goth fashion is characterized by darker, more subdued colors such as black, dark red, and deep purple. Everyday clothing includes corsets, lace, fishnet stockings, and platform boots.
  2. Hair and Makeup: Goth girls often have dark-colored hair, and makeup tends to be more dramatic, with dark lipstick, heavy eyeliner, and pale foundation. The emphasis is on creating a mysterious or elegant look.
  3. Music: The goth subculture is closely associated with gothic rock and related genres. Bands like Bauhaus, Siouxsie and the Banshees, and The Sisters of Mercy are often associated with the goth music scene.

While these descriptions provide a general overview, it’s important to note that individual expression can vary within both subcultures. People may incorporate elements from different subcultures or create their unique styles. 

Subcultures like scene and goth are fluid and can evolve, with individuals adding their personal touches to the fashion and aesthetics associated with each subculture.

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What is the difference between a scene girl and a goth girl?

Appearance-wise, most scene girls usually wear high-top Converse shoes, striped leggings, hair bows, frilly skirts, and tons of beaded bracelets (see picture). The Raccoon tail hairstyle is also quite popular. Scene girls tend to have bright makeup and don’t wear lipstick.

What is the difference between a scene girl and a goth girl?

(Goth has a ton of different styles, so I’m going with the traditional) Goth girls, on the other hand, usually wear fishnets, leather, tall platformed boots, and very teased-up hair. They also have very dark, exaggerated makeup; some wear white foundation or foundation two shades lighter than their skin tone.

What is the difference between a scene girl and a goth girl?

With music, scene girl usually listen to bands like Pierce the Veil, Blood on the Dance Floor (though they aren’t as popular now), and a lot of music similar to emos (like My Chemical Romance and Fall Out Boy) while goths usually listen to bands such as Joy Division, The Cure, Siouxsie and the Banshees, and Bauhaus.

“Scene” is connected to emo, which is connected to the emo music scene. I would say that “scene” is much less famous today (2024) and less relevant in pop culture than the long-standing goth scene/subculture, which started in the late 70s with a massive umbrella of music scenes besides traditional goth rock.

What is the difference between a scene girl and a goth girl?

For scene/emo girls, the aesthetic borrows from preexisting subcultures like goth/punk, grunge, and your generic “rock” look. The hairstyle is that combover big…thingy (maybe inspired by the 80s and the big hair look?) lol. I don’t know if it has a specific name, but I know it as “scene/emo hair,” lol.

They wear bright colors and different colored hair; some have piercings, and some borrow from goths by wearing fishnets, skirts, etc. Like I said, it is a hybrid of styles all in one.

Now, I wouldn’t say I like Scene/Emo lol. I wouldn’t say I like the look, but I especially don’t like the music. Goth, however, is different and, in my humble goth opinion, more attractive, beautiful, and sophisticated, and I would add, is more diverse in its look…

There are many different gothic styles, and I will try to cover them:

  • First Traditional Goth
  • Victorian Goth
  • There is even a “military” look for goths
  • Then, the medieval look

Cybergoth is linked more to Industrial/EBM music and borrows from the Rave culture, which I have heard described as Goth combined with Rave, aesthetically speaking. You have the romantic/vampire look. You also have the more casual goth look, which borrows from all the others, and this is the most common look outside of club events, etc.

You also have the gothabilly look, which borrows from the rockabilly/50s aesthetic. You also have the Steampunk goth, which is steampunk but wearing black…but slightly different than the Victorian Goth.

I guess I can also add the “Fetish Goth,” which borrows from kink/fetish subcultures… it is just “showier” goth styles, lol. But yeah, of course, you have hybrids of all of these, and most importantly, individual creativity is encouraged in this whole so that you will see a variety of styles in goth clubs/events/concerts. So there you have the comparison, and no offense to the scene/emo, but Goth is a beautiful style and is fantastic to be a part of!

What’s the difference between an EGirl and a scene/emo girl?

Originally Answered: What’s the difference between an EGirl and a scene/emo girl? The main difference is appearance.

E-girls tend to look like this:

Hair: any length but mostly chin to shoulder length hair, some bangs and dyed a bright color, likely half and half or the front two strips dyed.

Makeup: bright eyeshadow with thick eyeliner and lashes, heavy highlight on the nose, giving a button-nose look. May draw things like tiny hearts or tears under their eyes. Takes inspo from clown makeup, quite literally.

Fashion: usually a pleated skirt or wide-leg jeans, a stripy top with a band t-shirt on top (probably a band that they don’t listen to) or a t-shirt with some dark/edgy quote on it, some chain belt, fishnet tights, and black combat boots or Demonias. Beanies & chokers are also popular E-girl fashions.

Piercings: septum and bridge piercings are popular among e-girls.

Something else that I think exclusively applies to E-girls is the romanticizing of mental illness. I’ve seen so many photos of fashion ideas or whatever where t-shirts & hoodies have wildly ignorant or downright stupid quotes on them such as ‘I’m a psycho,’ ‘depressed kid,’ or ‘cut here’ in an attempt to appeal to a teenage audience who think it’s edgy. 

It’s a big reason why, as an alternative person, I’m not a big fan of the E-kid subculture. It just seems full of toxicity and performative activism.

An example:

On the other hand, scene/emo kids probably look(ed) like this:

Hair: very side-swept, choppy bangs resulting in pretty big hair. Scene girl dyed their hair in brighter colors, and at the end, probably with some zebra stripes:

Meanwhile, kids mostly opted for black or less extreme colors. The popular emo thing was to dye your hair half and half (which is where the e-girl trend probably came from). And let’s not forget this atrocity…

Emo and scene makeup were similar; they were very thick raccoon eyeliner. I think it was primarily emos who went in with the black & red eyeshadow, though.

Fashion: Oh, shit, we’re going down that rabbit hole now, okay. Be prepared.

Scene girl fashion: LOTS of bright colors and layering. Cami tops, dresses, cute little t-shirts, cheetah/zebra/checkered print, stripy socks, beaded jewelry, tiaras, bows, rainbow.

Emo fashion: LOADS of black & red. Skinny jeans, band t-shirts (that they listen to), Vans/Converse (with lyrics scribbled), black or stripy hoodies, tees, belts with skulls/studs, wristbands/sweatbands.

Piercings: snakebites and eyebrow piercings were popular, but there is no limit to how many an emo/scene girl has. Bring it on.

The other main difference would be the music they listen to.

I’m pretty sure e-girls listen to what would be along the lines of emo rap and alternative pop, so artists like:

  • Lil Peep
  • xxxtentacion
  • Savage Ga$p
  • Machine Gun Kelly
  • Billie Eilish
  • Melanie Martinez
  • Wilbur Soot
  • Banshee
  • The Neighbourhood
  • Chase Atlantic
  • Blackbeard
  • Ashnikko
  • Juice WRLD
  • Halsey

Scene girl, as far as I know, listen(ed) to music ranging from pop-punk to bizarre shit like Jeffree Star, so I guess artists like:

  • All Time Low
  • blink-182
  • AFI
  • Paramore
  • 3OH!3
  • Simple Plan
  • A Day To Remember
  • The All-American Rejects
  • Ayesha Erotica
  • Thirty Seconds To Mars
  • Metro Station
  • Dashboard Confessional
  • Avril Lavigne
  • The Red Jumpsuit Apparatus
  • The Maine
  • Bowling For Soup
  • Neck Deep

And finally, emos like myself listen to, well, emo music, which is stuff like emocore, hardcore (ig? it’s hard to describe it as anything other than emo lol), which is artists like these:

  • Bring Me The Horizon
  • Pierce The Veil
  • My Chemical Romance
  • Mayday Parade
  • Sunny Day Real Estate
  • Hawthorne Heights
  • Asking Alexandria
  • Black Veil Brides
  • Tokio Hotel
  • Mineral
  • Sleeping With Sirens
  • Linkin Park
  • Taking Back Sunday
  • Set It Off
  • Jimmy Eat World
  • The Used
  • American Football

This answer took so long, but it was worth it. What is the difference between a scene girl and a goth girl?

What’s the difference between an EGirl and a scene/emo girl?

Originally Answered: What’s the difference between an EGirl and a scene/emo girl?

All right. I’m an emo girl and have been one for a good half a decade, and I am sick of being confused for an e-girl, so I will gladly clear up the differences between the two.

  1. MUSIC: Emo kids tend to prefer music with an emotional message, usually self-deprecative and with a lot of screaming in it. This music evolved from punk but expanded to include other genres like alternative and metalcore. Egirls listen to pop rap or whatever is on the radio. Maybe it has meaning to it to them, but I wouldn’t know, considering most of the music I hear on TikTok is crappy remixes of good songs and other stuff that should return to the trash can from which it crawled.
    1. Bands:
      1. Emo kids: To reiterate, emo started with its roots in punk, so bands like Rites of Spring (which pioneered the genre), Jawbreaker, Sunny Day Real Estate, Cap’n Jazz, and screamo bands like Pg99, Circle Takes the Square, Orchid, City of Caterpillar, Malady (the love child of COC and Pg99), Thursday, and Silverstein, all became popular. In the last two decades, post-hardcore, metalcore/death-core, and pop-punk have also become associated with emo. (I’m not sure how, but I won’t complain. They all slap.) so bands like Fall Out Boy, Panic! at the Disco, Pierce the Veil, Bring Me the Horizon, All Time Low, Of Mice and Men, Black Veil Brides, Asking Alexandria, Parkway Drive, Suicide Silence, and MCR all became popular.
      2. E-kids: As I stated previously, rap and hip-hop are viral among this demographic (especially rappers with sad or emotional lyrics), so artists like Lil’ Peep, Lil’ Pump, Lil’ Nas (all the other Lil’s, I don’t know), and Doja Cat are well-loved by e-kids. Many e-girls will also listen to K-pop bands like Blackpink or BTS, sadder pop music like Billie Eilish, and even traditionally “emo” bands. (MCR is a fan favorite. I see many shirts and Revenge-reminiscent makeup looks on TikTok– Noice.)
  2. HAIR: Unlike what some Quorans said, we do NOT dye zebra print into our hair. (Seriously, do you even know what an emo kid is? Those are scene girls– completely different. That’s like me calling you a VSCO girl.) We usually opt for one-colored hair, but sometimes you’ll see us with ombres or different-colored highlights that are NOT coon tails! Do you want examples? Look up Alex Dorame, ArianaTeaCat, or Hayley Williams (Yes, she was emo before she was “cool.”) I’ve seen E-girls with many pastel and brightly-colored dye jobs, mainly with the two little strands in the front colorful and the rest natural-looking. Also important to note that split-dying is very popular among e-girls, but emo girls did it first. We tend to part our hair to the side so the colors blend more.
  3. HAIR STYLING: This is a separate bullet point because it’s essential. We tend to wear many choppy layers that we cut with a razor. I have a deep part with a choppy side fringe and a side-burn piece that frames my face. The characteristic haircut features shorter layers on top and longer ones at the bottom, like the modern mullet (another thing you e-girls or whatever you call yourselves appropriated from us). We also straighten the heck out of it until we can practically hear it pleading for mercy and tease the hell out of it. The e-girls I’ve seen sometimes have long, straight, or medium-length hair that they section and wear up in little half-up pigtails (OK, admittedly, that’s quite cool.) I’m not sure since I don’t think there’s an actual “staple” hairstyle for e-girls, though I’ve noticed you guys like blunt-cut fringes.
  4. MAKEUP: Unlike another commenter suggested, we do NOT wear that much makeup. Usually, we stick to the foundation, concealer, smokey eyeshadow, and winged eyeliner. You all [e-girls] go crazy with the makeup. I’ve seen everything from eyeshadow that takes up the entire eye socket to blush on the nose (you’re trying to look like you have a cold?) to painted-on freckles. (Why?) E-girls are attempting to look like cartoon characters with their makeup. (or clowns. That works, too.) I’ve also noticed a lot of little hearts or teardrops painted onto the face with eyeliner. (What, you all mimes now?)
  5. FASHION: Emo is a more androgynous style. I would classify the E-girl style as a “girlier” version of the emo style. Emo girls wear a lot of bands and graphic shirts, hoodies, whatever, with skinny jeans. E-girls tend to either layer their clothes– band t-shirts (featuring bands they’ve probably never listened to) over long-sleeved shirts (I remember doing this in middle school, and everyone made fun of me for it.) with baggy pants or a skirt or a dress– I don’t know. E-girls wear a lot of spiked jewelry, chains (not sure if appropriated from goth and punk culture or meant to be rapper-esque), and big, dangly earrings. They seem to like bucket hats and beanies cuffed and worn over their forehead, fishnets, and many checkered and striped prints. For shoes, I’ve seen them wearing either big, stompy boots with big platforms and lots of buckles or canvas shoes like Vans/Converse/Keds. Emo girls wear bracelets– chokers, fingerless gloves, wrist warmers (with bracelets on top) and the like. Beanies are also popular here, but we wear them correctly– hanging off the backs of our heads (because we don’t want to mess up our fringe). Stripes and checkers are also ubiquitous here, as are Vans and Converse (but they have to have song lyrics and pictures scribbled all over them with Sharpie. Bonus points if the scribblings include stars). Both styles are known for having facial piercings (Emos did it first and were– and still are– scorned for it.) The most common ones are Septums, Nostrils, and Snake Bites. (I thought I was so calm and so rebellious when I got my Septum done….and then everyone else started getting them *cries in “I DiD iT bEfOrE iT wAs CoOl XD!1!1″*)

What is the difference between a scene girl and a goth girl?

I’ve only included the more surface or visual aspects of the two since that is what people tend to confuse the most. Attitudes and personalities also vary, so it is only fair to assume someone’s personality if you know them. 

I do know, however, that e-girls, generally speaking, spend a lot of time on Tik-Tok and Twitch and enjoy video games, while emos prefer Tumblr, Myspace (RIP), and, well, video games (FNAF). This was a lot of information thrown at you, so please allow me to sum it up with a picture:

(Please note that this image is not mine and was found via a Google search. This is an artwork by DevennaSori on DeviantArt. They deserve the credit for providing us with this image, not me. Please don’t sue me; I’m broke.)

Note: I accidentally said E-girls wear long-sleeved shirts over their band shirts. I meant to say under. I’ve fixed it.

Note 2: I decided to add a list of specific bands for each under the music section as examples of how the music differs. 

E-girls tend to have a rather diverse taste in music, so please don’t attack me if I’m wrong. (I’m sensitive 🥺) I’m just going off of what I’ve seen/heard on social media and what my 16 y/o brother told me. (Does this officially make me old?) I’ve also expanded the Fashion section to be more specific (again, based on my observations).

I should also add that while I scorned e-kids for “appropriating” other alternative fashions, emos did the same thing more or less, so I guess I really shouldn’t talk…What is the difference between a scene girl and a goth girl?

Where have all the Emo, Goth, and Scene girl gone?

Here! I’m emo, but I’m taking a year off before college and don’t get out much. All my emo friends and I are in mourning over MCR’s breakup and are bummed about this year’s warped tour lineup, so… yay! for the fallen angels, BVB army forever, and we’re not all dead.

Boils down to fashion, the music they listen to, and their overall view on life. A goth chick probably listens to stuff like The Cure or Symphonic Metal groups while offering a nuanced perspective on life. 

A scene girl probably listens to stuff like MCR and American Football, enjoys very sad-sounding things, and has a bleaker perspective of life. Emos have taken a lot of goth fashion, though, so it’s easy to confuse them for another.

I’m seeing a comeback with the emo-thing in my town. I’m part of that, lol, but I see loads of people in skinny jeans converse, emo-hat thingies, and skates. It’s funny because I have some emo friends on Facebook, and they’re all friends with each other, and if I find another emo, yet again, it says, ‘So-and-so is your mutual friends,’ and I’m like, ‘Lol, what?’.

I’d say the emos that wear the long black and white sleeves under the black band t-shirt short sleeves, who wear baggyish skinny jeans, who wear silly bandz aren’t around anymore, but more modern kinds are around. 

What I am noticing, which isn’t emo or anything, is people who aren’t emo wearing bracelets that are all unique and alternative, which makes me wonder if a new movement will start.

What is the difference between a punk and a goth?

Punk as a lifestyle has beliefs and hopes. They want to change the world. They dream of anarchy and hope that it can be accomplished someday.

Goth lifestyle has cynicism and despair. They know nothing changes, the least of which is the world. They dream of anarchy but know humans are such selfish shits that it will never work.

Both value individualism and self-expression.

“Punk” and “goth” are subcultures with distinct styles, attitudes, and cultural influences. 

Here are some key differences between the two:

  1. Origins and History:
  • Punk: The punk subculture emerged in the mid-1970s as a reaction to societal norms and political issues. It is characterized by anti-establishment attitudes, DIY (do-it-yourself) ethos, and a raw, energetic music, fashion, and lifestyle style.
  • Goth: The goth subculture has roots in the late 1970s and early 1980s, evolving from post-punk music scenes. Goths are often associated with a more reflective and dark aesthetic, drawing inspiration from literature, horror, and romanticism.
  1. Music:
  • Punk: Punk music is known for its fast-paced, loud, and often aggressive sound. Punk bands include the Sex Pistols, Ramones, and The Clash.
  • Goth: Goth music tends to be more atmospheric, melodic, and introspective. Genres like gothic rock, post-punk, and darkwave are associated with the goth subculture. Bands like Bauhaus, Siouxsie and the Banshees, and The Sisters of Mercy are examples.
  1. Fashion:
  • Punk: Punk fashion is characterized by ripped clothing, DIY accessories, leather jackets, band T-shirts, and distinctive hairstyles like mohawks. The style often includes elements of rebellion and anti-fashion.
  • Goth: Goth fashion tends to be darker and more elegant, with black being a dominant color. Everyday clothing items include corsets, lace, velvet, and platform boots. Makeup and hairstyles often reflect a more dramatic and mysterious look.
  1. Attitude:
  • Punk: Punk is associated with a rebellious, anti-authoritarian attitude. It often expresses frustration with societal norms and encourages individualism and self-expression.
  • Goth: The goth subculture is often seen as more introspective and intellectual. Goths may have a fascination with the macabre, literature, and a sense of romanticism.
  1. Symbols and Imagery:
  • Punk: Common symbols include safety pins, studs, and DIY patches. The punk aesthetic is often more chaotic and aggressive.
  • Goth: Common symbols include crosses, bats, and other occult or romantic imagery. The goth aesthetic tends to be more mysterious and sophisticated.

It’s important to note that these are generalizations, and individuals within these subcultures may incorporate elements from both or have their unique style. Subcultures can also evolve, and the lines between them may blur.

Where have all the Emo, Goth, and Scene girl gone?

They are still around, just less than in the late 2000’s, speaking about emos. They aren’t that rare; look around; you’ll probably spot some at some point, especially if you live in the US. I live in a country where ’emo’ wasn’t all the rage, and I see some a few times a week.

As for the scene of kids, the whole movement is dead. But there are some scenes still around. They aren’t as standard as ten years ago because the music went back underground, meaning it’s not as “mainstream” as it used to be.

As for goth kids, they aren’t rare at all. There’s always that one kid in middle or high school who dresses all in black, listens to Death Metal, and is obsessed with dark stuff.

Subcultures like Emo, Goth, and Scene have remained, but their visibility and prevalence can vary over time. These subcultures often experience fluctuations in popularity, and individuals may move on to different styles or interests as they grow older.

Here are some possible reasons why the visibility of these subcultures might change:

  1. Cultural Trends: Subcultures are influenced by cultural trends, and as new trends emerge, the popularity of existing subcultures may decline. Music, fashion, and social media trends can play a significant role.
  2. Aging Population: Many individuals who were part of these subcultures during their youth may transition to different styles or interests as they grow older. Responsibilities such as work, family, and other life changes can also impact lifestyle choices and fashion preferences.
  3. Evolution of Styles: Subcultures can evolve, leading to new styles or blending existing ones. Some elements of Emo, Goth, and Scene may be integrated into broader fashion trends, making them less distinct as standalone subcultures.
  4. Online Spaces: Social media and online communities have become prominent platforms for self-expression and connecting with like-minded individuals. While physical presence in specific subcultures may decline, online spaces allow individuals to continue expressing their interests and connecting with others who share similar passions.
  5. Media Representation: The portrayal of subcultures in the media can impact their visibility and popularity. If a subculture receives positive or negative attention in the media, it may influence how individuals perceive and engage with it.

It’s essential to recognize that subcultures are diverse, and individuals within these groups may continue to express their unique styles and interests even if the overall visibility of the subculture changes. Additionally, some subcultures may experience resurgence or adaptation in different forms over time. The perception of the popularity of these subcultures can also vary based on geographic location and local trends.

What is exactly wrong with being emo, goth, or scene?

Nothing at all. I grew up as a metalhead who hung out with punks and goths in southwest Florida. If it weren’t for those guys and my other metal, nerdy, and horror-loving friends, middle and high school would have been more unbearable than it already was.

I still wear a lot of black T-shirts and jeans, even to work (I’m a programmer), but I don’t think it defines my identity these days. However, back then, it helped me to find my friends based on mutual interest and subcultural identity. 

Because they were also considered “weird” by their likes and looks, those friends went through similar trials and tribulations, and we helped each other through the hard times we had. I am still friends with many of them (primarily online, as I’ve moved a reasonable distance away).

There is nothing inherently wrong with being Emo, Goth, or Scene. These subcultures and styles allow individuals to express their identities, emotions, and interests uniquely and creatively. 

Like any subculture, they provide a sense of community and belonging for those who identify with them.

However, these subcultures have sometimes been stereotyped or misunderstood, leading to misconceptions and negative perceptions. 

Some of the stereotypes associated with Emo, Goth, or Scene individuals include being overly emotional, antisocial, or engaging in self-harm. Recognizing that these stereotypes are not accurate representations of everyone within these subcultures is crucial.

People should be free to express themselves and embrace the styles and interests that resonate with them. Diversity in fashion, music, and lifestyle choices is a positive aspect of society, and individuals should not be judged or stigmatized based on their subcultural affiliations.

It’s important to approach others with an open mind and respect for their individuality. Stereotyping or judging people based on their appearance or subcultural affiliation perpetuates discrimination and can lead to misunderstandings. Embracing diversity and fostering understanding can contribute to a more inclusive and accepting society.

Why does every teen want to be goth or emo but never punk? Not judging. Just curious and like sociology.

  1. Goth is pretty.
  2. Emo is pretty.
  3. Punk is not pretty.

The same goes for the music. Goth music varies in style, but it’s usually atmospheric, well-recorded, and produced, and the vocalists usually give pleasant voices. Emo music is generally expertly recorded and delivered to commercial perfection. Punk music typically sounds like the bassist accidentally stepped on the machine recording the music in the middle of the song.

Goth… as a lifestyle… is about embracing the beauty in life, both the darker and the light aspects. It’s about seeking and finding perfection… being your most beautiful self, even if you’re the only one to see it. It’s an optimistic lifestyle for people who look at everyone else and wonder why they settle for less… and feel out of place for not paying themselves.

Punk… as a lifestyle… is about embracing and finding beauty in imperfection. It’s about accepting yourself for who you are and realizing it’s okay to be you. It’s also a bit angry with society but optimistic in that it fully expects society to change and improve. There’s a reason why punk songs tend to be political, but goth songs tend to talk about emotion and beauty. Punk is for people who feel out of place but don’t care.

I don’t know much about emo, but I thought it was the bratty baby brother to goth.

I’m afraid I have to disagree with your assessment that “every teen wants to be goth or emo but never punk.” I don’t even think you meant that literally. But more teens tend to gravitate to the goth or emo lifestyles because those are the ones that… for lack a better way to put it… make you attractive. Inside and outside. At its core, it’s about beauty… in yourself, in the world.

What growing teen wouldn’t want that? 

The preteen and teen years are when we define ourselves, and who doesn’t want to be shiny, pretty, and perfect?

Teenagers who are punk tend to fall into one of two categories… either they are a bit more mature for their age and have more realistic expectations about themselves, or they have given up and taken on a contrary attitude. The first is not something a person can choose; the latter is not something a person would choose.

Of course, all this amateur sociology is quite generic and sweeping… teens and preteens are complex and fascinating creatures, and lumping them into simple categories using broad generalizations rarely does them justice. But in general… goth and emo are simply more attractive countercultures than punk is. 

Goth and emo are commercialized and marketed because all the clothing and makeup cost money, whereas anyone can look punk with 20 bucks and a trip to the thrift store. Goth and emo are about flaunting who you are; punk is about simply accepting who you are. All of these things lend themselves to the formative teenage years.

None of this implies that goth or emo are only suited to teenagers. Don’t go reading something into this that I didn’t say. I’m simply answering the question as it was asked.

What are the claims to be goth, punk, prep, emo, or any other label?

  • Prep is the most different, so I’ll start with it. Most people described as prep will not express themselves with it, as “prep” or “preppy” are often used pejoratively by the following subcultures.
  • Prep, which comes from “preparatory school,” refers to a person who would attend such a school, implying that they are well-off, upper class, snobby, and conservative; the antithesis of the following subcultures embraced by poor/working class people.

These other subcultures are all music subcultures, and they start with punk.

  • Punks, as the name implies, are a subculture revolving around punk rock starting in the late 70s, with bands such as The Sex Pistols, The Clash, Black Flag, and Misfits (although they are specifically horror punk).
  • The punk subculture is anti-consumerism and DIY in practice, with vehement anarchism being a critical political view among most early punks. Nowadays, the punk subculture has many subdivisions, creating music from all kinds of political opinions.
  • Musically, punk rock is aggressive and simplistic, sharing many sonic traits with rockabilly but more rhythm-locked than the latter.

Then came goth.

  • Goth came a few years after punk, specifically from an experimental form of punk rock called post-punk, with often discredited but very heavy influences from glam rock.
  • As the name implies, they revolve around goth rock (bands like Bauhaus and The Sisters of Mercy), with related subgenres such as:
  • Punkier-sounding deathrock (bands like 45 Grave and Christian Death),
  • And a more synth-heavy darkwave (bands like Clan of Xymox and early albums by The Cure).
  • In the early days, goths were known as positive punks, and could be seen as an evolution of punk’s spirit after it, ironically enough, became commercialized; many punk bands evolved with a post-punk/goth sound, most notably The Damned and Siouxsie and the Banshees.
  • Musically, as an outgrowth of post-punk, goth rock is more atmospheric and experimental than punk but differentiates itself from its parent genre with more heavily reverb-drenched guitars playing an often supporting role, bass guitars generally setting the tune, and drums playing danceable beats, drum machines are ubiquitous in goth bands.

And then emos.

  • Emos came about a decade later than goths. Emo, short for emotional hardcore, comes from hardcore punk and post-hardcore.
  • Emo bands include Rites of SpringSunny Day Real EstateMom Jeans., American Football, and many more. Although seldom discussed, emo has an undeniable influence on math rock as well.
  • Musically, emo differentiates itself from hardcore punk by demonstrating more complex, technical rhythms; whereas punk prides itself on its simplicity, emo drops this trait.

Extra notes.

  • It should be noted that music is the heart of all these subcultures; fashion, interests, and attitude are all secondary.
  • As these subcultures share a lineage, it is common for a person in one subculture to have music from the other two in their library. It should also be noted that people in these subcultures can listen to any music they want, but their favorite and most common music genres, punk, goth, or emo, is precisely what makes them one of those, both, or all three (not uncommon).
  • Although these music genres are all linked, they are different. There is a common but essential pitfall to avoid: confusing emo and goth, particularly with darkly inclined pop-rock. Bands like My Chemical RomanceBlack Veil Brides, and Panic! at the Disco.
  • Sadly, the media often portrays goth and emo as interchangeable, believing that a dark and gloomy theme is the basis for them rather than their sounds.
  • As such, the pop-rock above bands will be attributed to both goths and emos when they are neither.
  • Sometimes, the media will throw another subculture into the mix: metalheads. Because heavy metal can be brutal, dark, and violent, it is, as far as they know, goth and, therefore, emo.

Is pastel goth a thing, or is it a scene?

Of course, it’s a thing, or you wouldn’t have heard of it to have been able to ask a question about it.

While the Scene subculture stems from Chav and Emo mixing in punk/rave/indie and grunge, I would say that Pastel Goth is a softening of Grunge/Punk/Goth combined with some Candi/Ganguro/Lolita and maybe rave influences.

There is a distinction between the two in understanding where each one came from and what the staples of each one are. These are some common elements of

Pastel Goth:

  • Pastel Hair
  • Leg garters
  • Fishnets
  • Platform sneakers
  • Button-up shirts and blouses
  • Creepers
  • Pastel pullovers
  • Spiked chokers and headbands
  • Black lipstick or pastel pink lipstick
  • Eyeball bows
  • Flower Crowns

How can you tell if you’re goth or emo?

Goth is a rock music characterized by somber tones and sad lyrics. Goth also refers to a performer or follower of Goth music.

Emo is traditional complex rock music with personal and emotional lyrics. Emo also refers to a performer or follower of Emo music.

Goth has darker themes. They are interested more in witchcraft, vampires, and black magic. Emo has emotional themes. Their themes deal more with different emotions. Both Goths and Emos love black color.

The Goths prefer many things in black, such as nail polish, lipstick, and eyeliner. Emos is also seen wearing black attire most of the time. However, they wear other somber colors too.

Goths are often seen in black color clothes that are dark and mysterious.

Emos revel in wearing tight jeans, hoodies, scarves, and coated clothing. They use leather chokers, frills, lace, corsets, and floppy jewelry. Goths are associated with liking to be secluded, introverted, and loving the black color.

Emo rock is associated with several things, such as being introverted, shy, emotional, sensitive, depressed, suicidal, etc.

The words Goth and Ewordspeak are about different music traditions. However, the terms Goth and Emo are also used to refer to performers or followers of these styles of music. Between the two, Goths are considered punk trendsetters, and the Emos copy gothic clothing.

Is it possible to be an e-girl and a goth simultaneously?

Yes, that’s fine. But the thing is, e-girl & goth is very, very, very similar aesthetics. Their difference is that e-girl is short for “electronic girl “and is more like a soft goth aesthetic, and e-girls are “fashionable, anime-watching, gaming-obsessed teens and a young woman who likes to use the internet to express themselves. “they have a signature heart on their cheek. Black and darker colors with bright hair colors are a common theme for e-girls.

What is Goth?

A Goth is someone who finds beauty in things others consider dark. They love what is dark and mysterious. That doesn’t mean Goths are evil; it just means they have a different perspective to many. And it also doesn’t mean Goths are unkind, violent, or lacking in humor; quite the opposite is true. They wear black 99% of the time with very platformed shoes.


The difference between a scene girl and a goth girl is like comparing an EDM concert to a macabre symphony—both have unique styles and are often misunderstood.

Scene girls erupted from the post-emo culture of the late 2000s. They tend to have brightly colored hair, often in neon hues, choppy layers, or cocktails. They have an affinity for skinny jeans and band tees and often sport an array of bracelets and chunky belt buckles.

Their music taste leans more towards the post-hardcore and electronic pop fusion. Picture the sonic lovechild of Screamo and electro. Let’s get a heavy dose of Skrillex with a sprinkle of Dashboard Confessional. They’re social animals, communicating through MySpace updates and whatever’s trending now—TikTok, perhaps.

Let’s the goth girl—she’s a nocturnal cousin. If you look at their origin story, goths romanticized life’s darker, gloomy side, taking inspiration from gothic literature and music. They’re wearing a lot of black, with maybe some purples and reds.

Their makeup follows suit with a whitened face, dark eyeliner, and lipstick. Music-wise, Saus, Sisters of Mercy, Siouxsie, and the Banshees echo through their chambers. Think somber poetry meets industrial dance.

Both scenes are often lumped together, much to the purists’ chagrin—because let’s share an interest in the alternative, stepping outside the mainstream look. But our scene girl is all about being loud and proud with colors and party vibes, whereas our goth girl finds solace in expressing the darker and more introspective side.

In Portland, OR—my haunt—you’lyou’llboth subcultures. They breathe life into the city, each painting their streaks on the canvas of counterculture. Whether at a show at the Hawthorne Theatre or a midnight meetup in Lone Fir Cemetery, each has its place in the rich tapestry of Portland life.

They tell a story of diverging aesthetics bound by a shared desire to express the depth of who they are, each in their own vivid or shadowy hue. What is the difference between a scene girl and a goth girl?

I hope that helps 🙂

What is the difference between a scene girl and a goth girl?